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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Zergio on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:45

    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:*yawns*

    Upon what actions are good and bad? To see something as bad, when it might be good, both sides do. The "good" see the opponents as "bad". But, sometimes, the bad is good, which makes the good bad. but, yet, there is no way to determin who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. All actions are not based on good or bad, but selfishness.

    Some people want to burn and harvest fossil fuels for the selfishness of making money while the earth pays.

    However, people who don't want that are selfish to reduce the profits of a company.

    A kid stealing a candy bar is selfishly taking something for free, cuz he can't afford it.

    The store is selfishly over pricing candy so they can make a profit.

    and the company's are also selfishly over pricing product to make profit.


    The world runs on selfishness. Even if someone is good, they have a selfish reason. The bad guys are also running on selfish reasons.

    Deny as you wish, but most of the things we do are based on selfishness.

    So, is there good or bad, or is there just levels of selfishness?

    Zergio of the Mind Maze: November 19, 2010

    Someone is speaking of the philosophy of Egoism.

    A very fine summery, Q

    Yup. But I disagree with like, most of what you said. Especially when you spoke of a profit or burning fossil fuels. Very rarely is 'the bad' good. Also, what about martyrs? Or those who have sacrificed themselves for others? The very idea of selfishness is gripping onto your own life. Yet people will act against their own best interests. And some will die to protect another. If dying to protect another is selfish, then is the term selfish even useful?

    Ah, a very fine point there Q. But, I am not trying to point it out like that. Perhaps selfishness is not the right word to define what im trying to state, but, from ether side, when good and evil is used, both sides almost always see themselfs as good, while the other is bad. Now, intentions are obviously different, and reasoning is given to justify themselfs to make more people see them as "good". If you ask both sides who's the bad or good guy, I think the majority answer would be "I am the good guy, they are the bad guy".

    and yes, I /THINK/. I have no proof to show I am right, nor do I want to prove im right. Im giving a oppinion, which is not a right or wrong answer when first stated.

    Think back to when you fought to become the leader of WOTN. Almost all of WOTN, if not all of WOTN were justifying you. We saw you as the good guy, and the Previous leader as the bad guy. If we were in the perspective of the old leader, he might have seen you as the bad guy, for taking his power away before rules say it is defaulted to you.

    Now, before you comment, im just trying to show how both sides can see themselfs as good, and opponents as bad.

    and I am not saying what im stating happens all the time.

    Its just a thought that came to me, and I decided to meantion ^^
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by SickSelfishSyQo on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:45

    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:We do?? Where did you contrive that delusion?!?

    Do not shoot a wonderful dove down by such villainry!

    If it is not the graceful and delightful SSS come to the bar to make a stunning appearance!

    I am ecstatic!

    My joy matches your own! I have so enjoyed being able to see and conversate with the famous Titan ^^ I hope things are interesting in your life??

    I hope to be famous to all of the aspiring little eight year old tykes one day as a dear role model so that they can have figurines and posters of me!

    But that is all in jest and futile thinking!

    Things have been SPECTACULAR! More than ever with the 12 relatives getting in tomorrow.

    Tell me! I have a special question to ask you today.

    Eight?? Contrary to popular belief, you would be better starting with the 16 year olds!! They are just impressionable enough to make a difference!!

    12?? Which ones?? You enjoy seeing your relatives, then??

    What sort of question??
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Titaniumxvx on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:48

    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~ What the freedom

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya? Pay Up

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.

    Angelic

    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    To fly My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!

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    Re: The Bar

    Post by quater on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:49

    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:*yawns*

    Upon what actions are good and bad? To see something as bad, when it might be good, both sides do. The "good" see the opponents as "bad". But, sometimes, the bad is good, which makes the good bad. but, yet, there is no way to determin who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. All actions are not based on good or bad, but selfishness.

    Some people want to burn and harvest fossil fuels for the selfishness of making money while the earth pays.

    However, people who don't want that are selfish to reduce the profits of a company.

    A kid stealing a candy bar is selfishly taking something for free, cuz he can't afford it.

    The store is selfishly over pricing candy so they can make a profit.

    and the company's are also selfishly over pricing product to make profit.


    The world runs on selfishness. Even if someone is good, they have a selfish reason. The bad guys are also running on selfish reasons.

    Deny as you wish, but most of the things we do are based on selfishness.

    So, is there good or bad, or is there just levels of selfishness?

    Zergio of the Mind Maze: November 19, 2010

    Someone is speaking of the philosophy of Egoism.

    A very fine summery, Q

    Yup. But I disagree with like, most of what you said. Especially when you spoke of a profit or burning fossil fuels. Very rarely is 'the bad' good. Also, what about martyrs? Or those who have sacrificed themselves for others? The very idea of selfishness is gripping onto your own life. Yet people will act against their own best interests. And some will die to protect another. If dying to protect another is selfish, then is the term selfish even useful?

    Ah, a very fine point there Q. But, I am not trying to point it out like that. Perhaps selfishness is not the right word to define what im trying to state, but, from ether side, when good and evil is used, both sides almost always see themselfs as good, while the other is bad. Now, intentions are obviously different, and reasoning is given to justify themselfs to make more people see them as "good". If you ask both sides who's the bad or good guy, I think the majority answer would be "I am the good guy, they are the bad guy".

    and yes, I /THINK/. I have no proof to show I am right, nor do I want to prove im right. Im giving a oppinion, which is not a right or wrong answer when first stated.

    Think back to when you fought to become the leader of WOTN. Almost all of WOTN, if not all of WOTN were justifying you. We saw you as the good guy, and the Previous leader as the bad guy. If we were in the perspective of the old leader, he might have seen you as the bad guy, for taking his power away before rules say it is defaulted to you.

    Now, before you comment, im just trying to show how both sides can see themselfs as good, and opponents as bad.

    and I am not saying what im stating happens all the time.

    Its just a thought that came to me, and I decided to meantion ^^

    That's not selfishness. That's just being human.

    An opinion can be right or wrong. I believe the Moon is the back of the sun would be an opinion that is flatly wrong.

    He might of? But so what? Does it really matter if people believe they are all good or not. And I, for one, view myself as a bad person quite a bit. It depends on your morals. Yes, if there is no common moral standard for everyone, then morals will be made to always justify one's actions. But if everyone has a common code of morals, say, Christian morals. Then whoever breaks the morals will be universally seen as evil, and those who keep them as good. Individual perspective will have less power to cloud and build the ego.

    In the same way we all noted that I was a better leader because we all based it off the standard of a leader. Note, also, PF may of been completely understanding as to why we took his power.

    And I am just sharing my thoughts on what you think.
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Titaniumxvx on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:50

    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya?

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.


    That dastardly gangster! He always suggest my connnections to communism!

    I saw your valiant efforts, Titan, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    Right! Don't be saddened by that dastardly gangster! I am on your side 100 percent of the way!

    I know that you are a true red blooded American and nothing can change this sentiment!
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by quater on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:51

    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~ What the freedom

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya? Pay Up

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.

    Angelic

    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    To fly My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!


    It's clear that SSS and I can never be friends or even in the same thread again!
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Titaniumxvx on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:54

    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:We do?? Where did you contrive that delusion?!?

    Do not shoot a wonderful dove down by such villainry!

    If it is not the graceful and delightful SSS come to the bar to make a stunning appearance!

    I am ecstatic!

    My joy matches your own! I have so enjoyed being able to see and conversate with the famous Titan ^^ I hope things are interesting in your life??

    I hope to be famous to all of the aspiring little eight year old tykes one day as a dear role model so that they can have figurines and posters of me!

    But that is all in jest and futile thinking!

    Things have been SPECTACULAR! More than ever with the 12 relatives getting in tomorrow.

    Tell me! I have a special question to ask you today.

    Eight?? Contrary to popular belief, you would be better starting with the 16 year olds!! They are just impressionable enough to make a difference!!

    12?? Which ones?? You enjoy seeing your relatives, then??

    What sort of question??

    16 year olds? Quite Savage beings! They may have lustful desires of me! While this is no vice, I would much rather be innocently idolized as a role model instead of by some moody beings!

    They are a weird bunch, I tell ya! Grams, Gramps, Random Guy, Dad, Mom, Uncle, Aunt, Brother, and 4 Cousins. This will be a madness. What about you? Do you enjoy your relatives, SSS?

    I shall tell you another day. It is quite important.
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by SickSelfishSyQo on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:55

    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya?

    It was me. Just a clever way to interject in your cenversation ^^

    Aha! See! A confession. I'll let you go this once.

    As always, so magnanimous.

    I like that word because it has the word Magna in it which means nothing but looks like the word Magma.

    Haha, whaen I decided to look it up, was when I heard it on Inuyasha ^^

    And it is alos like manga!
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Titaniumxvx on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:56

    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~ What the freedom

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya? Pay Up

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.

    Angelic

    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    To fly My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!


    It's clear that SSS and I can never be friends or even in the same thread again!

    Look Q! I am on your side 100 percent of the way and I couldn't agree more.

    SSS is most definitely a communist! I saw her wear a red bandanna once and it was very clear! I am in full support.
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by quater on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:56

    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya?

    It was me. Just a clever way to interject in your cenversation ^^

    Aha! See! A confession. I'll let you go this once.

    As always, so magnanimous.

    I like that word because it has the word Magna in it which means nothing but looks like the word Magma.

    Haha, whaen I decided to look it up, was when I heard it on Inuyasha ^^

    And it is alos like manga!

    Holy snap! Two of my favorite things!

    I think I've read it before. ^^
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by quater on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:57

    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
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    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
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    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~ What the freedom

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya? Pay Up

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.

    Angelic

    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    To fly My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!


    It's clear that SSS and I can never be friends or even in the same thread again!

    Look Q! I am on your side 100 percent of the way and I couldn't agree more.

    SSS is most definitely a communist! I saw her wear a red bandanna once and it was very clear! I am in full support.

    A full blooded commie you say?! Eghast! Titan, how could we let her get into the site and corrupt the youth of WOTNOPOLIS!?
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by SickSelfishSyQo on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:57

    Titaniumxvx wrote:
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    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
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    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya?

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.


    That dastardly gangster! He always suggest my connnections to communism!

    I saw your valiant efforts, Titan, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    Right! Don't be saddened by that dastardly gangster! I am on your side 100 percent of the way!

    I know that you are a true red blooded American and nothing can change this sentiment!

    I'm so flattered to hear that.

    Well... I dunno about that...
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Titaniumxvx on Sat Nov 20 2010, 02:59

    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
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    Titaniumxvx wrote:
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    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
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    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
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    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~ What the freedom

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya? Pay Up

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.

    Angelic

    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    To fly My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!


    It's clear that SSS and I can never be friends or even in the same thread again!

    Look Q! I am on your side 100 percent of the way and I couldn't agree more.

    SSS is most definitely a communist! I saw her wear a red bandanna once and it was very clear! I am in full support.

    A full blooded commie you say?! Eghast! Titan, how could we let her get into the site and corrupt the youth of WOTNOPOLIS!?

    These lips speak only the truth! I say her passing out communist posters to the youth of WOTNop!

    I said, "Whaddya got there?" and SSS quickly hid it!

    I know a communist when I see one! Don't believe me? I speak the truth and I support your sentiments!
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by quater on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:01

    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
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    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
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    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~ What the freedom

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya? Pay Up

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.

    Angelic

    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    To fly My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!


    It's clear that SSS and I can never be friends or even in the same thread again!

    Look Q! I am on your side 100 percent of the way and I couldn't agree more.

    SSS is most definitely a communist! I saw her wear a red bandanna once and it was very clear! I am in full support.

    A full blooded commie you say?! Eghast! Titan, how could we let her get into the site and corrupt the youth of WOTNOPOLIS!?

    These lips speak only the truth! I say her passing out communist posters to the youth of WOTNop!

    I said, "Whaddya got there?" and SSS quickly hid it!

    I know a communist when I see one! Don't believe me? I speak the truth and I support your sentiments!

    Dear gosh!? Does she have no restraint!

    I believe you fully!
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Zergio on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:02

    quater wrote:
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    Zergio wrote:*yawns*

    Upon what actions are good and bad? To see something as bad, when it might be good, both sides do. The "good" see the opponents as "bad". But, sometimes, the bad is good, which makes the good bad. but, yet, there is no way to determin who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. All actions are not based on good or bad, but selfishness.

    Some people want to burn and harvest fossil fuels for the selfishness of making money while the earth pays.

    However, people who don't want that are selfish to reduce the profits of a company.

    A kid stealing a candy bar is selfishly taking something for free, cuz he can't afford it.

    The store is selfishly over pricing candy so they can make a profit.

    and the company's are also selfishly over pricing product to make profit.


    The world runs on selfishness. Even if someone is good, they have a selfish reason. The bad guys are also running on selfish reasons.

    Deny as you wish, but most of the things we do are based on selfishness.

    So, is there good or bad, or is there just levels of selfishness?

    Zergio of the Mind Maze: November 19, 2010

    Someone is speaking of the philosophy of Egoism.

    A very fine summery, Q

    Yup. But I disagree with like, most of what you said. Especially when you spoke of a profit or burning fossil fuels. Very rarely is 'the bad' good. Also, what about martyrs? Or those who have sacrificed themselves for others? The very idea of selfishness is gripping onto your own life. Yet people will act against their own best interests. And some will die to protect another. If dying to protect another is selfish, then is the term selfish even useful?

    Ah, a very fine point there Q. But, I am not trying to point it out like that. Perhaps selfishness is not the right word to define what im trying to state, but, from ether side, when good and evil is used, both sides almost always see themselfs as good, while the other is bad. Now, intentions are obviously different, and reasoning is given to justify themselfs to make more people see them as "good". If you ask both sides who's the bad or good guy, I think the majority answer would be "I am the good guy, they are the bad guy".

    and yes, I /THINK/. I have no proof to show I am right, nor do I want to prove im right. Im giving a oppinion, which is not a right or wrong answer when first stated.

    Think back to when you fought to become the leader of WOTN. Almost all of WOTN, if not all of WOTN were justifying you. We saw you as the good guy, and the Previous leader as the bad guy. If we were in the perspective of the old leader, he might have seen you as the bad guy, for taking his power away before rules say it is defaulted to you.

    Now, before you comment, im just trying to show how both sides can see themselfs as good, and opponents as bad.

    and I am not saying what im stating happens all the time.

    Its just a thought that came to me, and I decided to meantion ^^

    That's not selfishness. That's just being human.

    An opinion can be right or wrong. I believe the Moon is the back of the sun would be an opinion that is flatly wrong.

    He might of? But so what? Does it really matter if people believe they are all good or not. And I, for one, view myself as a bad person quite a bit. It depends on your morals. Yes, if there is no common moral standard for everyone, then morals will be made to always justify one's actions. But if everyone has a common code of morals, say, Christian morals. Then whoever breaks the morals will be universally seen as evil, and those who keep them as good. Individual perspective will have less power to cloud and build the ego.

    In the same way we all noted that I was a better leader because we all based it off the standard of a leader. Note, also, PF may of been completely understanding as to why we took his power.

    And I am just sharing my thoughts on what you think.

    I do know what your talking bout, Q. I just consider a oppinion a neutral answer when first stated. I know its not like that at all, but I like viewing it like that ^^

    and I do know your stating your thoughts, which is why this isn't a unpleasent conversation. Sure, we may say some things the other doesn't agree with and all that, but we don't pull out fists or anything. We just calmly state what we wanna state.

    That is one of the reasons I like talking to you like this. Sure, what I see maybe wrong and all that, but you don't just say im wrong. You state your thoughts upon it to show me the errors I made.

    but, this conversation is very interesting. I thought of the idea of both sides with thoughts of the good and the bad. You went in depth and discription, allowing me to see a more clear answer.

    Even if im proven wrong after fighting hard, I do enjoy these chats, because its like looking out the window that shows rain, then looking out a window that shows the sun ^^

    and although I could debate with other people, its just not the same without good old Q. After all, you helped me get over alot of silly things I over reacted about, even though I felt a sting ^^

    Heh, maybe meeting you was the second best thing to happen to me. Apologies, but you can't beat number one this time~
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Titaniumxvx on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:03

    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya?

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.


    That dastardly gangster! He always suggest my connnections to communism!

    I saw your valiant efforts, Titan, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    Right! Don't be saddened by that dastardly gangster! I am on your side 100 percent of the way!

    I know that you are a true red blooded American and nothing can change this sentiment!

    I'm so flattered to hear that.

    Well... I dunno about that...

    Don't doubt yourself, my incredible buddy! You are the epitome of freedom and a strong American visionary!

    That Q right there is a gangster who seeks to vandalize and destroy the establishment!

    You, SSS, are completely right and I agree with you 100%!
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by SickSelfishSyQo on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:04

    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
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    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
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    quater wrote:
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    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya?

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.


    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!


    It's clear that SSS and I can never be friends or even in the same thread again!

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    Re: The Bar

    Post by quater on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:05

    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:*yawns*

    Upon what actions are good and bad? To see something as bad, when it might be good, both sides do. The "good" see the opponents as "bad". But, sometimes, the bad is good, which makes the good bad. but, yet, there is no way to determin who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. All actions are not based on good or bad, but selfishness.

    Some people want to burn and harvest fossil fuels for the selfishness of making money while the earth pays.

    However, people who don't want that are selfish to reduce the profits of a company.

    A kid stealing a candy bar is selfishly taking something for free, cuz he can't afford it.

    The store is selfishly over pricing candy so they can make a profit.

    and the company's are also selfishly over pricing product to make profit.


    The world runs on selfishness. Even if someone is good, they have a selfish reason. The bad guys are also running on selfish reasons.

    Deny as you wish, but most of the things we do are based on selfishness.

    So, is there good or bad, or is there just levels of selfishness?

    Zergio of the Mind Maze: November 19, 2010

    Someone is speaking of the philosophy of Egoism.

    A very fine summery, Q

    Yup. But I disagree with like, most of what you said. Especially when you spoke of a profit or burning fossil fuels. Very rarely is 'the bad' good. Also, what about martyrs? Or those who have sacrificed themselves for others? The very idea of selfishness is gripping onto your own life. Yet people will act against their own best interests. And some will die to protect another. If dying to protect another is selfish, then is the term selfish even useful?

    Ah, a very fine point there Q. But, I am not trying to point it out like that. Perhaps selfishness is not the right word to define what im trying to state, but, from ether side, when good and evil is used, both sides almost always see themselfs as good, while the other is bad. Now, intentions are obviously different, and reasoning is given to justify themselfs to make more people see them as "good". If you ask both sides who's the bad or good guy, I think the majority answer would be "I am the good guy, they are the bad guy".

    and yes, I /THINK/. I have no proof to show I am right, nor do I want to prove im right. Im giving a oppinion, which is not a right or wrong answer when first stated.

    Think back to when you fought to become the leader of WOTN. Almost all of WOTN, if not all of WOTN were justifying you. We saw you as the good guy, and the Previous leader as the bad guy. If we were in the perspective of the old leader, he might have seen you as the bad guy, for taking his power away before rules say it is defaulted to you.

    Now, before you comment, im just trying to show how both sides can see themselfs as good, and opponents as bad.

    and I am not saying what im stating happens all the time.

    Its just a thought that came to me, and I decided to meantion ^^

    That's not selfishness. That's just being human.

    An opinion can be right or wrong. I believe the Moon is the back of the sun would be an opinion that is flatly wrong.

    He might of? But so what? Does it really matter if people believe they are all good or not. And I, for one, view myself as a bad person quite a bit. It depends on your morals. Yes, if there is no common moral standard for everyone, then morals will be made to always justify one's actions. But if everyone has a common code of morals, say, Christian morals. Then whoever breaks the morals will be universally seen as evil, and those who keep them as good. Individual perspective will have less power to cloud and build the ego.

    In the same way we all noted that I was a better leader because we all based it off the standard of a leader. Note, also, PF may of been completely understanding as to why we took his power.

    And I am just sharing my thoughts on what you think.

    I do know what your talking bout, Q. I just consider a oppinion a neutral answer when first stated. I know its not like that at all, but I like viewing it like that ^^

    and I do know your stating your thoughts, which is why this isn't a unpleasent conversation. Sure, we may say some things the other doesn't agree with and all that, but we don't pull out fists or anything. We just calmly state what we wanna state.

    That is one of the reasons I like talking to you like this. Sure, what I see maybe wrong and all that, but you don't just say im wrong. You state your thoughts upon it to show me the errors I made.

    but, this conversation is very interesting. I thought of the idea of both sides with thoughts of the good and the bad. You went in depth and discription, allowing me to see a more clear answer.

    Even if im proven wrong after fighting hard, I do enjoy these chats, because its like looking out the window that shows rain, then looking out a window that shows the sun ^^

    and although I could debate with other people, its just not the same without good old Q. After all, you helped me get over alot of silly things I over reacted about, even though I felt a sting ^^

    Heh, maybe meeting you was the second best thing to happen to me. Apologies, but you can't beat number one this time~
    IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

    Naw, we're not like that :P And yes, that is why I talk to people like that. I don't want to beat people, but teach them. ^^

    Thanks. Glad to hear my little debates aren't so bad after all. ^^ And hey, I enjoy talking to you and helping you too!

    Well thanks then. I am happy to make the top 100. ^^
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Zergio on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:07

    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:*yawns*

    Upon what actions are good and bad? To see something as bad, when it might be good, both sides do. The "good" see the opponents as "bad". But, sometimes, the bad is good, which makes the good bad. but, yet, there is no way to determin who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. All actions are not based on good or bad, but selfishness.

    Some people want to burn and harvest fossil fuels for the selfishness of making money while the earth pays.

    However, people who don't want that are selfish to reduce the profits of a company.

    A kid stealing a candy bar is selfishly taking something for free, cuz he can't afford it.

    The store is selfishly over pricing candy so they can make a profit.

    and the company's are also selfishly over pricing product to make profit.


    The world runs on selfishness. Even if someone is good, they have a selfish reason. The bad guys are also running on selfish reasons.

    Deny as you wish, but most of the things we do are based on selfishness.

    So, is there good or bad, or is there just levels of selfishness?

    Zergio of the Mind Maze: November 19, 2010

    Someone is speaking of the philosophy of Egoism.

    A very fine summery, Q

    Yup. But I disagree with like, most of what you said. Especially when you spoke of a profit or burning fossil fuels. Very rarely is 'the bad' good. Also, what about martyrs? Or those who have sacrificed themselves for others? The very idea of selfishness is gripping onto your own life. Yet people will act against their own best interests. And some will die to protect another. If dying to protect another is selfish, then is the term selfish even useful?

    Ah, a very fine point there Q. But, I am not trying to point it out like that. Perhaps selfishness is not the right word to define what im trying to state, but, from ether side, when good and evil is used, both sides almost always see themselfs as good, while the other is bad. Now, intentions are obviously different, and reasoning is given to justify themselfs to make more people see them as "good". If you ask both sides who's the bad or good guy, I think the majority answer would be "I am the good guy, they are the bad guy".

    and yes, I /THINK/. I have no proof to show I am right, nor do I want to prove im right. Im giving a oppinion, which is not a right or wrong answer when first stated.

    Think back to when you fought to become the leader of WOTN. Almost all of WOTN, if not all of WOTN were justifying you. We saw you as the good guy, and the Previous leader as the bad guy. If we were in the perspective of the old leader, he might have seen you as the bad guy, for taking his power away before rules say it is defaulted to you.

    Now, before you comment, im just trying to show how both sides can see themselfs as good, and opponents as bad.

    and I am not saying what im stating happens all the time.

    Its just a thought that came to me, and I decided to meantion ^^

    That's not selfishness. That's just being human.

    An opinion can be right or wrong. I believe the Moon is the back of the sun would be an opinion that is flatly wrong.

    He might of? But so what? Does it really matter if people believe they are all good or not. And I, for one, view myself as a bad person quite a bit. It depends on your morals. Yes, if there is no common moral standard for everyone, then morals will be made to always justify one's actions. But if everyone has a common code of morals, say, Christian morals. Then whoever breaks the morals will be universally seen as evil, and those who keep them as good. Individual perspective will have less power to cloud and build the ego.

    In the same way we all noted that I was a better leader because we all based it off the standard of a leader. Note, also, PF may of been completely understanding as to why we took his power.

    And I am just sharing my thoughts on what you think.

    I do know what your talking bout, Q. I just consider a oppinion a neutral answer when first stated. I know its not like that at all, but I like viewing it like that ^^

    and I do know your stating your thoughts, which is why this isn't a unpleasent conversation. Sure, we may say some things the other doesn't agree with and all that, but we don't pull out fists or anything. We just calmly state what we wanna state.

    That is one of the reasons I like talking to you like this. Sure, what I see maybe wrong and all that, but you don't just say im wrong. You state your thoughts upon it to show me the errors I made.

    but, this conversation is very interesting. I thought of the idea of both sides with thoughts of the good and the bad. You went in depth and discription, allowing me to see a more clear answer.

    Even if im proven wrong after fighting hard, I do enjoy these chats, because its like looking out the window that shows rain, then looking out a window that shows the sun ^^

    and although I could debate with other people, its just not the same without good old Q. After all, you helped me get over alot of silly things I over reacted about, even though I felt a sting ^^

    Heh, maybe meeting you was the second best thing to happen to me. Apologies, but you can't beat number one this time~
    IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

    Naw, we're not like that :P And yes, that is why I talk to people like that. I don't want to beat people, but teach them. ^^

    Thanks. Glad to hear my little debates aren't so bad after all. ^^ And hey, I enjoy talking to you and helping you too!

    Well thanks then. I am happy to make the top 100. ^^

    ._. *checks my list* I think I only got to the...... 20's on this here list.
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by quater on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:08

    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya?

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.


    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!


    It's clear that SSS and I can never be friends or even in the same thread again!


    *Banishes the commie*
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by quater on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:08

    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:*yawns*

    Upon what actions are good and bad? To see something as bad, when it might be good, both sides do. The "good" see the opponents as "bad". But, sometimes, the bad is good, which makes the good bad. but, yet, there is no way to determin who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. All actions are not based on good or bad, but selfishness.

    Some people want to burn and harvest fossil fuels for the selfishness of making money while the earth pays.

    However, people who don't want that are selfish to reduce the profits of a company.

    A kid stealing a candy bar is selfishly taking something for free, cuz he can't afford it.

    The store is selfishly over pricing candy so they can make a profit.

    and the company's are also selfishly over pricing product to make profit.


    The world runs on selfishness. Even if someone is good, they have a selfish reason. The bad guys are also running on selfish reasons.

    Deny as you wish, but most of the things we do are based on selfishness.

    So, is there good or bad, or is there just levels of selfishness?

    Zergio of the Mind Maze: November 19, 2010

    Someone is speaking of the philosophy of Egoism.

    A very fine summery, Q

    Yup. But I disagree with like, most of what you said. Especially when you spoke of a profit or burning fossil fuels. Very rarely is 'the bad' good. Also, what about martyrs? Or those who have sacrificed themselves for others? The very idea of selfishness is gripping onto your own life. Yet people will act against their own best interests. And some will die to protect another. If dying to protect another is selfish, then is the term selfish even useful?

    Ah, a very fine point there Q. But, I am not trying to point it out like that. Perhaps selfishness is not the right word to define what im trying to state, but, from ether side, when good and evil is used, both sides almost always see themselfs as good, while the other is bad. Now, intentions are obviously different, and reasoning is given to justify themselfs to make more people see them as "good". If you ask both sides who's the bad or good guy, I think the majority answer would be "I am the good guy, they are the bad guy".

    and yes, I /THINK/. I have no proof to show I am right, nor do I want to prove im right. Im giving a oppinion, which is not a right or wrong answer when first stated.

    Think back to when you fought to become the leader of WOTN. Almost all of WOTN, if not all of WOTN were justifying you. We saw you as the good guy, and the Previous leader as the bad guy. If we were in the perspective of the old leader, he might have seen you as the bad guy, for taking his power away before rules say it is defaulted to you.

    Now, before you comment, im just trying to show how both sides can see themselfs as good, and opponents as bad.

    and I am not saying what im stating happens all the time.

    Its just a thought that came to me, and I decided to meantion ^^

    That's not selfishness. That's just being human.

    An opinion can be right or wrong. I believe the Moon is the back of the sun would be an opinion that is flatly wrong.

    He might of? But so what? Does it really matter if people believe they are all good or not. And I, for one, view myself as a bad person quite a bit. It depends on your morals. Yes, if there is no common moral standard for everyone, then morals will be made to always justify one's actions. But if everyone has a common code of morals, say, Christian morals. Then whoever breaks the morals will be universally seen as evil, and those who keep them as good. Individual perspective will have less power to cloud and build the ego.

    In the same way we all noted that I was a better leader because we all based it off the standard of a leader. Note, also, PF may of been completely understanding as to why we took his power.

    And I am just sharing my thoughts on what you think.

    I do know what your talking bout, Q. I just consider a oppinion a neutral answer when first stated. I know its not like that at all, but I like viewing it like that ^^

    and I do know your stating your thoughts, which is why this isn't a unpleasent conversation. Sure, we may say some things the other doesn't agree with and all that, but we don't pull out fists or anything. We just calmly state what we wanna state.

    That is one of the reasons I like talking to you like this. Sure, what I see maybe wrong and all that, but you don't just say im wrong. You state your thoughts upon it to show me the errors I made.

    but, this conversation is very interesting. I thought of the idea of both sides with thoughts of the good and the bad. You went in depth and discription, allowing me to see a more clear answer.

    Even if im proven wrong after fighting hard, I do enjoy these chats, because its like looking out the window that shows rain, then looking out a window that shows the sun ^^

    and although I could debate with other people, its just not the same without good old Q. After all, you helped me get over alot of silly things I over reacted about, even though I felt a sting ^^

    Heh, maybe meeting you was the second best thing to happen to me. Apologies, but you can't beat number one this time~
    IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

    Naw, we're not like that :P And yes, that is why I talk to people like that. I don't want to beat people, but teach them. ^^

    Thanks. Glad to hear my little debates aren't so bad after all. ^^ And hey, I enjoy talking to you and helping you too!

    Well thanks then. I am happy to make the top 100. ^^

    ._. *checks my list* I think I only got to the...... 20's on this here list.

    Still a privilege dude. ^^
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Titaniumxvx on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:09

    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    quater wrote:No, but I am? Can I suffice you with friendliness?

    NNNNNNNOOOOOO! Not without your lovable and compounding interest friend!

    Oh thank goodness Titan came! I am just the opening show in comparison!

    The opening show? But! That is the best! Everyone is asleep by the last act of the day!

    Still! Look at my jest! And I was so eager to speak with the Q today!

    Depends! I always go to the early shows where the last act is at a prompt and timely 8 PM!

    Hey, how ya be, Titan? ^^

    God forbid we couldn't have you out past 10 PM! That's dangerous. 8 PM is quite prompt. Yes.

    I am merry as merry weather today. Came back from a school debate event just now.

    What have you been up to?

    I've had a relaxing evening and am now beginning work on WOTNOPOLIS 17.

    Oh, tell me about your school event. Hurry hurry. Spare no details.

    A relaxing evening and a spectacular WOTNopolis 17 to be released! Sounds Magnificent!

    Say? Say? But it's too mundane! At a school faraway, our school debate team was debating the topic,

    "The abuse of illegal drugs ought to be treated as a matter of public health, not of criminal justice"

    We bear no choice over the side we end up getting. I ended up going pro.

    Haha, not anytime soon. Just starting it Titan.

    Yuck~ I am totally against that idea. (I am sure SSS would agree with it though but don't tell her I said that).


    She! Wha-~ What the freedom

    Framed! These words are not mine. Who put them there? Come on which one of ya? Pay Up

    Q said it! Q said that you were a commie, SSS! I tried...I cried and I tried to defend your honor but....

    It was all Q's doing! (Points) That is the true culprit and villain!

    I am a dear and beautiful and wondrous angel.

    Angelic

    Woah now Titan! Way to throw ole Q under the bus.

    You threw yourself under the bus, pal! No help from me standing by the bus stop!

    It is kind of like that awkward moment when you get in a stranger's van only to realize that there is no free candy and no free dinner after all.

    To fly My point is that you set it up!

    Blast you couldn't be more right. How cowardly for me to blame you!


    What will happen to SSS and Q now?

    The drama! Suspense! Agony! Cruel Tension! The nightmarish despair!


    It's clear that SSS and I can never be friends or even in the same thread again!

    Look Q! I am on your side 100 percent of the way and I couldn't agree more.

    SSS is most definitely a communist! I saw her wear a red bandanna once and it was very clear! I am in full support.

    A full blooded commie you say?! Eghast! Titan, how could we let her get into the site and corrupt the youth of WOTNOPOLIS!?

    These lips speak only the truth! I say her passing out communist posters to the youth of WOTNop!

    I said, "Whaddya got there?" and SSS quickly hid it!

    I know a communist when I see one! Don't believe me? I speak the truth and I support your sentiments!

    Dear gosh!? Does she have no restraint!

    I believe you fully!

    It is a stupendous travesty!

    No fears, Q! Even if the whole world of WOTN were to turn against you, I would still remain your friend!
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    Re: The Bar

    Post by Zergio on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:10

    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:
    quater wrote:
    Zergio wrote:*yawns*

    Upon what actions are good and bad? To see something as bad, when it might be good, both sides do. The "good" see the opponents as "bad". But, sometimes, the bad is good, which makes the good bad. but, yet, there is no way to determin who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. All actions are not based on good or bad, but selfishness.

    Some people want to burn and harvest fossil fuels for the selfishness of making money while the earth pays.

    However, people who don't want that are selfish to reduce the profits of a company.

    A kid stealing a candy bar is selfishly taking something for free, cuz he can't afford it.

    The store is selfishly over pricing candy so they can make a profit.

    and the company's are also selfishly over pricing product to make profit.


    The world runs on selfishness. Even if someone is good, they have a selfish reason. The bad guys are also running on selfish reasons.

    Deny as you wish, but most of the things we do are based on selfishness.

    So, is there good or bad, or is there just levels of selfishness?

    Zergio of the Mind Maze: November 19, 2010

    Someone is speaking of the philosophy of Egoism.

    A very fine summery, Q

    Yup. But I disagree with like, most of what you said. Especially when you spoke of a profit or burning fossil fuels. Very rarely is 'the bad' good. Also, what about martyrs? Or those who have sacrificed themselves for others? The very idea of selfishness is gripping onto your own life. Yet people will act against their own best interests. And some will die to protect another. If dying to protect another is selfish, then is the term selfish even useful?

    Ah, a very fine point there Q. But, I am not trying to point it out like that. Perhaps selfishness is not the right word to define what im trying to state, but, from ether side, when good and evil is used, both sides almost always see themselfs as good, while the other is bad. Now, intentions are obviously different, and reasoning is given to justify themselfs to make more people see them as "good". If you ask both sides who's the bad or good guy, I think the majority answer would be "I am the good guy, they are the bad guy".

    and yes, I /THINK/. I have no proof to show I am right, nor do I want to prove im right. Im giving a oppinion, which is not a right or wrong answer when first stated.

    Think back to when you fought to become the leader of WOTN. Almost all of WOTN, if not all of WOTN were justifying you. We saw you as the good guy, and the Previous leader as the bad guy. If we were in the perspective of the old leader, he might have seen you as the bad guy, for taking his power away before rules say it is defaulted to you.

    Now, before you comment, im just trying to show how both sides can see themselfs as good, and opponents as bad.

    and I am not saying what im stating happens all the time.

    Its just a thought that came to me, and I decided to meantion ^^

    That's not selfishness. That's just being human.

    An opinion can be right or wrong. I believe the Moon is the back of the sun would be an opinion that is flatly wrong.

    He might of? But so what? Does it really matter if people believe they are all good or not. And I, for one, view myself as a bad person quite a bit. It depends on your morals. Yes, if there is no common moral standard for everyone, then morals will be made to always justify one's actions. But if everyone has a common code of morals, say, Christian morals. Then whoever breaks the morals will be universally seen as evil, and those who keep them as good. Individual perspective will have less power to cloud and build the ego.

    In the same way we all noted that I was a better leader because we all based it off the standard of a leader. Note, also, PF may of been completely understanding as to why we took his power.

    And I am just sharing my thoughts on what you think.

    I do know what your talking bout, Q. I just consider a oppinion a neutral answer when first stated. I know its not like that at all, but I like viewing it like that ^^

    and I do know your stating your thoughts, which is why this isn't a unpleasent conversation. Sure, we may say some things the other doesn't agree with and all that, but we don't pull out fists or anything. We just calmly state what we wanna state.

    That is one of the reasons I like talking to you like this. Sure, what I see maybe wrong and all that, but you don't just say im wrong. You state your thoughts upon it to show me the errors I made.

    but, this conversation is very interesting. I thought of the idea of both sides with thoughts of the good and the bad. You went in depth and discription, allowing me to see a more clear answer.

    Even if im proven wrong after fighting hard, I do enjoy these chats, because its like looking out the window that shows rain, then looking out a window that shows the sun ^^

    and although I could debate with other people, its just not the same without good old Q. After all, you helped me get over alot of silly things I over reacted about, even though I felt a sting ^^

    Heh, maybe meeting you was the second best thing to happen to me. Apologies, but you can't beat number one this time~
    IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!

    Naw, we're not like that :P And yes, that is why I talk to people like that. I don't want to beat people, but teach them. ^^

    Thanks. Glad to hear my little debates aren't so bad after all. ^^ And hey, I enjoy talking to you and helping you too!

    Well thanks then. I am happy to make the top 100. ^^

    ._. *checks my list* I think I only got to the...... 20's on this here list.

    Still a privilege dude. ^^

    btw, I'll be watching the new episode of OP tomorrow, at 9:00pm~
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    Post by Titaniumxvx on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:11

    Zergio! Am I somewhere in that top 100? Do say I am! Even if it is 98th, I shall be pleased!

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    Re: The Bar

    Post by SickSelfishSyQo on Sat Nov 20 2010, 03:12

    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:
    Titaniumxvx wrote:
    SickSelfishSyQo wrote:We do?? Where did you contrive that delusion?!?

    Do not shoot a wonderful dove down by such villainry!

    If it is not the graceful and delightful SSS come to the bar to make a stunning appearance!

    I am ecstatic!

    My joy matches your own! I have so enjoyed being able to see and conversate with the famous Titan ^^ I hope things are interesting in your life??

    I hope to be famous to all of the aspiring little eight year old tykes one day as a dear role model so that they can have figurines and posters of me!

    But that is all in jest and futile thinking!

    Things have been SPECTACULAR! More than ever with the 12 relatives getting in tomorrow.

    Tell me! I have a special question to ask you today.

    Eight?? Contrary to popular belief, you would be better starting with the 16 year olds!! They are just impressionable enough to make a difference!!

    12?? Which ones?? You enjoy seeing your relatives, then??

    What sort of question??

    16 year olds? Quite Savage beings! They may have lustful desires of me! While this is no vice, I would much rather be innocently idolized as a role model instead of by some moody beings!

    They are a weird bunch, I tell ya! Grams, Gramps, Random Guy, Dad, Mom, Uncle, Aunt, Brother, and 4 Cousins. This will be a madness. What about you? Do you enjoy your relatives, SSS?

    I shall tell you another day. It is quite important.
    That they are! But if you can get through to them, it's worth it!

    Oh! Sounds fun! Haha I can't say I do. I have a much too extended familt to be able to enjoy them.

    You could always PM me~

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